Thursday, December 15, 2011

Live Blogging the Fox News GOP Presidential Primary Debate

5:54 PM - Rather than participate on someone else's live blog, or read the Drunken Live Blog by Vodkapundit on PJ Media, I would grab a bottle of wine and sit with notebook in lap and watch / comment on the debate...I just hope the battery.....and wine lasts.

5:57 PM - BOR's Christmas Quiz was pretty simple....and Dana Carvey remains one of my favorites...

6:01 PM -  Rowdy crowd - I wonder if Ron Paul has a suit that actually fits....

6:03 PM - Preamble, preamble, preamble.....

6:04 PM - Electability is the first question up...Gingrich gets the first crack.   Newt starts the history lesson... I am like Ronald Reagan, and I can out debate Barack Obama if he is dumb enough to accept my challenge for 7 Lincoln Douglas style debates....despite all I've done in the last 10 years, I am a conservative.....

6:06 PM - Ron Paul now has to address his electability / nutter history - anyone here can beat Obama...Paul really does have something different to offer - neoConfederacy, conspiracy theories, and isolationism....just about the only thing of Paul that makes sense is the promise to cut $1T from budget in 2013...

6:08 PM - Question to Rick Santorum - why are you still here?  I'm trying, but I don't know....

6:10 PM - Question to Romney - perception is you will not attack Obama - how do you address that?  Romney rolls out his CV....Rick Perry looks bored....

6: 11 PM - Bachmann says, 'Oh, yeah?  Here's my CV'

6:12 PM - Cavuto to Perry - you'll die if you debate Obama right?  Um, ah, um, ah, I'm the Tim Tebow of the election....

6:14 PM - Huntsman - I'm a serious candidate dammit....

6:20 PM - Good question from Baier - How do you deal with a Congress or a branch of Congress that will obstruct your policies...30 sec each..  Santorum - functional anHunswer.  Perry - started good, failed off.  Romney - I've been there - just become more liberal.... Gingrich the key is leadership - not being an Alinsky radical..and I've been there too...  Paul - have to cut and get people to come together...and he's just clueless...  Bachmann - let's have a meeting based on no new taxes, no spending more than we have, and read the Constitution.....Huntsman - I've been there too, in Utah...

6:21 PM - Break came just in time as Katie wants to add her opinions....Catching up on missed tweets - LOL@Andy Levy - noting that Gingrich clearly declared what side of the war on Christmas that he is on...ROFL@Allahpundit for saying that Tim Tebow is praying to never become the Rick Perry of the NFL...Michelle Malkin notes this is the line of the debate so far....

6:27 PM - Chris Wallace brings up the Gingrich / Bain attack - and links that to the hard left (nice smackdown of Newt by Wallace - can't wait for the Gingrich retort...)  - to Romney....good answer by Romney and segue to attack on Obama...

6:29 PM - Another Chris Wallace shot on Gingrich re his time consulting for Fannie / Freddie....Conservatives should help people become homeowners - just don't do it the corrupt way of Chris Dodd / Barney Frank...

6:31 PM - Wallace to Paul - Can you help me smackdown Gingrich?

6:32 PM - Gingrich - Government can be good...

6:33 PM - Bachmann - Kill Gingrich for taking money from Fannie / Freddie as he worked for them...Gingrich to Bachmann - you're fibbing - I wasn't a lobbyist and I didn't try to stop reformation. (Michelle Malkin gagging on twitter)  Bachmann - a left wing site supports me - and you don't have to be a lobbyist for me to call you a lobbyist...Gingrich - yes, I am a target - but Bachmann is still wrong....SE Cupp notes on twitter- 'If Newt didn't kill his campaign with that endorsement of big government in our private lives, I don't know what will'....Yep...

6:36 PM - Gingrich is really making nice towards Romney - the apology earlier today, and now in the debate...

6:38 PM - Cavuto hits Ron Paul on his hypocrisy re earmarks...who thinks that since everyone else does it, he should too...and if Paul get's in the line of lemmings approaching the cliff?

 6:41 PM -Cavuto to Perry - aren't you a hypocrite too?  Perry - No....but let me go back to the Bachmann-Newt fight....Congress is corrupt!!!!

6:44 PM - Cavuto to Huntsman - can I get you to talk trash about China?  Huntsman actually has a good answer - tout and promote the dissidents in China to tweak the ChiComms...

6:46 PM - Twitter question - which sector will create the most jobs?  Romney - who knows....free market will determine that.  Good answer....particularly with the optimism towards manufacturing, energy (not alternative energy), and high tech....

6:52 PM - Gingrich's judicial reform plan to take power away from judicial activism is the next topic....look at this from the view of history and intent - not from the view of protecting the judicial power...Bachmann supports Newt's approach and that the Executive and Legislative Branch reclaim their lost powers.....the Judicial branch is not the final arbitrator...Kelly to Paul - give me the nutter viewpoint.....lots of talk, represents both sides of the argument, and.........doesn't want to answer other than I don't like that idea....

6:55 PM - Romney address his record in Mass...Allahpundit notes that Romney is doing so well, he might break 24%...

6:57 PM - Pick the best - pretty much all the conservatives - except for Paul - will not pick one out....Huntsman goes on and on - finally picking Alito and Roberts....Break...and a refill....

7:03 PM - Teeing up the Ron Paul nutter strategy re Iran and Paul doesn't disappoint....Ron Paul makes Neville Chamberlain look like a principled anti-appeasement advocate...

7:07 PM - Rick Santorum is asked to smack the crap out of Ron Paul....and does.

7:10 PM - Excellent answer by Romney...

7:12 PM - Bachmann - let me have that clue by four - I want to club some sense into Paul....

7:13 PM - Paul responds - sorry Michelle, no sense was clubbed into me....Michelle wants another whack....makes sense, but you can't cure stupid....

7:15 PM - Paul - Don't believe the IAEA report - they don't know what they are talking about....the crank is just raving at this point...

7:16 PM - Gingrich makes a great point about the challenges - citing the missiles being fired regularly into Israel....Huntsman is asked to comment - UN is good - and bad - and we need to get out of the Cold War mindset...let's address our domestic issues instead...and no, Brett Baier- YOU CAN"T DING ME!

7:20 PM - Moving to energy - Keystone XL pipeline / Payroll Tax cut extension....Gingrich - I need to edit my speech as I'm getting pissed...Obama is being more than stupid in his approach to both of these issues....Cavuto - nice, but you didn't answer my question... Gingrich - force him to veto...more than once...ie CALL THE PRESIDENT'S BLUFF - I've done this before. 

7:24 PM - Huntsman is talking...fast....and not mentioning China at all - shocker....and he's not listening to the beep...

7:25 PM - Bachmann isn't have a  bad debate - she's just so far into a hole that she will not be able to climb out...

7:27 PM - Perry invokes 10th Amendment / States Rights in a pretty good answer..until he decides to make it OK for states to pick winners and losers....then to the break...

7:30 PM - Have you seen the British Airways TV advert promoting the airline through it's history - with a number of iconic aircraft - one of the best commercials I've seen in a long time...but then, I also like flying BA....

7:32 PM - Border issues and Immigration up next - Fast and Furious / Perry's demand for AG Holder's resignation....I'd fire my AG if he didn't know about it....and if he did know about it....(Perfect answer)....and we need to return to the Monroe Doctrine...  Santorum -I'd sack Holder too....

7:33 PM - SE Cupp notes on Twitter that Perry is have the debate of his life - it's good, but that's a deep hole he is in....

7:36 PM - Romney on illegal immigration....you are welcome to apply - but get in line after those who have done so legally.... Gingrich's turn - no tax deductions for business hiring illegals, but if you're here 25 years with support - then you get a break if you are law abiding...we need to control the border first.

7:38PM - Kelly to Huntsman - Support amnesty?  No - speak on the American values -don't pander...no more illegal immigrants because Obama screwed up the economy so badly...

7:40 PM - Wallace to Romney - so, you're a flip flopper - care to comment?  Romney, after spinning, can't remember what he just said when Wallace asks for a clarification....then Wallace goes for the 'gotcha' on gay rights....Romney - it's not fair that you hold my record against me when I tried to run to the left of Teddy Kennedy...and I am not a flip flopper...

7:44 PM - Wallace to Santorum - Do you believe Romney's spin?  Basically - NO....Romney created Gay Marriage in Massachusetts...Romney - IT WASN'T MY FAULT - IT WAS THE MA SUPREME COURT

7:46 PM - Wallace to Bachmann- Want another chance to smack down Gingrich?  Split screen with Gingrich - he doesn't look happy.  Now gets a chance to reply - Bachmann is lying again....Bachmann is not happy that she is being accused of incorrect facts (Gardasil anyone?)

7:52 PM - Reagan's 11th Commandment - most focusing on beating Obama - except for maybe Ron Paul....

7:54 PM - My wife asks 'Who is that guy?' when Huntsman is making his closing statement.  Summarizes Huntsman well.

End of the debate -

Post game- Krauthammer noted that Bachmann went right after Gingrich - and Ron Paul was good on judges, and Paul beyond whacky on foreign policy.  Juan Williams - I'd like to see Paul or Perry move forward more - as they are the weakest GOP candidates....Gingrich held his own, my next weakest choice...

Cavuto / Wallace - Bachmann and Perry winners - Paul is fringe - or a little beyond fringe...

I'll have a recap and grading post no later than the morning!

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